Evangelical mega-church pastor Rob Bell
supports homosexual ‘marriage’
March 19, 2013 (MurrayVasser) - This Sunday Rob Bell, a popular Christian writer and speaker, came out in support of homosexual marriage. He stated, "I am for marriage. I am for fidelity. I am for love, whether it's a man and woman, a woman and a woman, a man and a man. I think the ship has sailed and I think the church needs -- I think this is the world we are living in and we need to affirm people wherever they are."
Bell went on to talk about love: "I would say that the powerful, revolutionary thing about Jesus' message is that he says, 'What do you do with the people that aren't like you? What do you do with the Other? What do you do with the person that's hardest to love?'"
For all his rhetoric on love, however, Rob Bell is demonstrating that he does not love homosexuals. Click "Here" to read the complete article.
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I find this to be a very interesting article about a well known Christian Evangelist/writer who has come out publicly in support of gay marriages.
As a Believer in Jesus Christ I have always been taught that we should always love the "sinner" but hate the "sin". In God's eye one sin is no more serious or less serious than another sin. "God hates sin!"
My question is this: Is Pastor Rob Bell a wolf in sheep's clothing and should he be labeled a "false teacher" of God's Word?
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Welcome back, Lloyd. What he is preaching is dead against the word of God. Not only is he a false teacher of God's word, but he could be considered to be a heretic also.
The choice isn't between supporting homosexuals, or our own ego. The choice is between good and evil. Homosexuality is a destroyer of family, life, and values. It destroys all who let it become a part of their lives, whether they are "homosexual" or not. We embrace no other sin in order to be politically correct.
The gay agenda cries out that all who oppose them hate them. They have tried to define the battle as either "hate" or "love." The greater love would be to tell them the Truth, that God forbids homosexuality, and His Word tells us that those who continue to practice it will not get into heaven. We cannot make their choices for them, but we can let them know that the Lord does love them, and that He waits for their return.
If the church is going to support homosexuality, they should also support adultery, rape, murder and all the other sins. If Bell doesn't do so, he's just playing politics.
Rob Bell is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He's loving everyone on their way to hell.
Isn't it better to tell them the truth, about what God has to say about sin so they can repent. That includes the homosexual, the sexually immoral (sex outside of heterosexual marriage), the liar, the thief, etc.
Unrepentant sinners, of all kinds, will give an account before God.
Someone who doesn't speak the truth, is a liar. What you are saying are lies from the pit of hell. It contradicts the Word of God. That sir, is not love.
II Peter 2:12-22 describes the situation quite clearly. Unfortunately he is just one of many who have fallen for the doctrine of Balaam, that it is okay to ignore God's commands for political ofr financial benefit.
I never heard of Rob Bell -- possibly because he is an idiot. He doesn't have the intelligence to be a false teacher. Wolf in sheep's clothing?
How about a wimp in warrior's clothing?
How about a robe of smug self-righteousness over an empty shell?
One of my dearest friends for most of my life is a homosexual man who would punch me if I ever said anything as dishonest and stupid as "that ship has sailed".
I love and pray for homosexuals. God can redeem anyone, but you do not put out a fire by spreading it to the next house.
Father, have mercy on Rob Bell.
I've never heard of Rib Bell either. It does sound like he had his 'Bell' rung quite hard, for him to say nonsense like this. Homosexuality is a sin, period. THe Bible says that God hates all workers of iniquity, the workers are the ones doing the work, in this case the sin, so loving the sinner and hating the sin sounds nice but it's not really biblical, nor does it make much sense logically speaking. Sin just means missing the mark, but unless there is somebody who actually misses that mark, it remains an theoretical proposition, at least that's what I think.
In a word: yes.
We cannot countenance sin or sinful lifestyles, however politically correct and nice this may be. But we have to be sensitive to other people's struggles and problems; Heaven knows we all have struggled in life with one thing or another, I know I have! If I was to condone sinful behaviour, whatever it might be, God would have a problem with me; equally, if I was to condemn any kind of sinner and sinful lifestyle, I would be a hypocrite. There is then, a fine line, a balance we must make. All sin is disobedience in the end, whatever it might be, and the buck stops with us first. If I am going to condemn anyone, I will start with myself.
Well, he's been exposed! Let's pray he repents and pray too that God's ministers themselves be not deceived, for in these last days, many will proclaim Christ as passionately as the disciples did. Let's pray we and those who will still believe will be able to discern truth from lies.
Thank you IanH for dropping by. You are right in that pastor Rob is definitely preaching a different gospel then that of our Lord and Savior taught. I can only lift Pastor Rob up in prayer to the One that can do all things and controls all that happens in this world.
Thanks RandiGrace for your comments. Jesus was so clear when He commanded us to love our neighbors as we would love yourself. With that being said, we need to remember that we are all sinners and that the only thing that keeps us from the judgment of God is the blood of Christ. I agree with you that we need to witness to the lost souls out there in the world and let them know that Jesus loves them and that they can be freed from the grip of sin by turning from their sin and allowing Christ to be their master. Blessings my friend.
Gorges, I always enjoy your visits and comments. In today’s world there are lots of congregations that claim to be “Christian”, but in reality they do not have solid Christian doctrine. Rob Bell has a very large following of folks that would rather hear all about God’s Love, but not about God’s Judgment.
Susanwalkergirl – Thank you for your visit and comments. Well said.
Donald – Your comments are always appreciated. You are “right-on” and it makes my heart ache that so many lost souls out there are falling for these false teachings. God’s blessings.
Thank you mushroom for your visit and comments. I do believe in the power of prayer for the lost souls of the world.
Alessandra – Thank you for your visit and comments. Rob Bell needs our prayers. As far as the saying, “love the sinner, but hate the sin.” I think we can all agree that God hates all sin. In the NT, Jesus makes it clear to us that we should love all people and that we should forgive those who do us wrong. Putting this all together, we as Christians should not tolerate sin nor should we hate our neighbors. Therefore, the statement, “Love the sinner, but hate the sin.” Is Biblical. Please show me scriptures that would indicate that Christians should not love others or should love sin. God bless.
Thank you bossmanham and Yay Padua-Olmedo for your visit and comments.
T-Childs - Well said. Thank you for your visit and comments.
After reading the main article, I cannot say without any certainty that Bell was actually stating that homosexuality was not a sin. I believe, and I could be wrong here, but it looks to me that Pastor Bell is simply excepting the sinner, not necessarily the sin. Could you imagine the church if every drunker, gambler, porn addict, angry, vain, deceitful, greedy, glutton, thief,abuser, unkind, person was not allowed entrance into the church? All our pews would be empty. Is Bell being a bit brash? Sure, yes, for anyone who has ever read or heard Bell speak can attest to his sometimes bold nature; however, Bell did not say that homosexuality is not a sin, he is simply demonstrating how the church is to receive sinners such as these, just like how the church receives sinners of all kinds. Some just wear it on their sleeves a little more.
I am equally surprised how there was not a single kind word spoken here on this "christian" web site, regarding Bell. My friends, we must be careful of the plank in our own eyes before we call someone out for being a wolf!
Rob Bell quite often talks about God's word laying out the best possible way to live. Homosexuality is on the list of 'Don't Go There' or life will be NOT the best God has to offer. Sadly, when church leaders with much influence give their stamp of approval it is deceptive and people can be led away from the Truth ending in disappointment and hopelessness. Then what? There will be a need for those who live in Truth to provide safe haven, direction and comfort to those who found themselves deceived. Keep loving your neighbor. That is something that is on the Highly Recommended list of things to do for living the best life possible. You won't be disappointed.
A year off and still, straight away you’re gunning for the gays – or those who don’t share your disproportionate opprobrium and interest in this particular area of life. You live in a nation which has caused a global economic meltdown through greed and financial mismanagement (basically through credit – supporting usury (something else condemned in the Bible)); a nation that leads the Western world in rates of divorce, teen pregnancy, lone parent families, murder, violent crime (the Bible Belt being the worst offender). Moreover, you live in a nation of fatties, leading the world in obesity (visible evidence of a misuse of God’s gift of the body and food, by greed and laziness). But what does Lloyd like to blog about the most? – homosexuality; and what do many of those commenting on this blog like to bleat on about – homosexuality. Odd isn’t it that something that doesn’t personally affect the majority of the readers of this blog, or yourself is the very thing that is massively and disproportionately a focus of interest. Perhaps, after a year’s silence, it is time to stop pointing the bony and self-righteous finger of accusation and do the braver and more challenging task of holding up a mirror to much that affects the lives of many filling the pews of churches. Perhaps it is time to write about the fat-asses that sit on those pews, or the divorcees and re-marriages that are common in the church going public – or perhaps question why Christian communities have a disproportionate number of teen pregnancies and lone parents. But this would be uncomfortable reading and would be rather challenging. So better stick to what you are good at – accusation and self-righteousness and a disproportionate interest in things that make you feel better about yourself – but don’t really challenge anyone. So many people writing seem more like Pharisees than tax-collectors... (cf. Luke 18:9-14). You’re a nasty little man, Lloyd.
The homosexual agenda affects everyone. Jim, Joe or Harry that are all off playing with each other don't affect me or you, but the homosexual agenda is much deeper than rebellious men and women committing forbidden sex.
The homosexual agenda is the power of Satan, the Destroyer. It destroys the lives of all that it touches.
Homosexuals have been given authority at the top of White House Administration appointments: http://www.victoryinstitute.org/presidential Pres Obama apointed KevinJennings to be the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Education. He was the founder and President of the Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network. His job is to make the schools safe and drug-free. The "safe" part is the dissemination of information and the acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle by our children. see: http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/obama-appoints-homosexual-propogandist-to-education/
The homosexual agenda is changing our laws to include acceptance and integration into society, our military, and the places we work, worship, and live, that we must tolerate this lifestyle as normal in our lives.
The homosexual agenda walks hand in hand with abortion. They destroy the family, they destroy life and they will destroy our nation.
There are many sins, but not all are called an abomination by God. He has told us that we will not go to heaven if we continue to practice homosexuality. Homosexuality can be forgiven, just as the sin of murder, or drunkeness, and all other sins can, but first the heart has to change to seek out God and to find repentence.
Yes, No, Doubt, The Bible is very clear on such issues, he is no doubt a wolf in sheep's clothing!!!
Keep away from such false teachers/preachers.
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Personally I am no fan of gay-marriage - but given the nastiness and disproportionate interest a certain flavor of Christian has in this matter - I really think on this issue the liberals have the moral high-ground. Conservative Christians can't start whining about this SSM - and morality in general - if they haven't been seamless in their integrity and alas there is much within many conservative Christian churches that needs more attention than the odd faggot wanting to mince down the aisle. There have been many moral issues conservative Christians should have spoken out about over the years that (I presume mainly out of self-interest – particularly during the boom economics of Reagan and Bush) they have remained silent on.... Matthew 23:23 and all that.
Odd how Bible believing Christians seem so fixated on the verses of the Bible that condemn others, yet we hear little of verses that condemn themselves and their own self-righteous, legalistic and sterile creed that seems to confine ‘morality’ to areas below the waist but says little when it comes to finance, social justice, ambition, the use of wealth and washing feet. The obsessions of Lifesitenews.com and the like are abortion and homosexuality – issues which for the vast majority of pew filling Christians have no PERSONAL COST and therefore these subjects have becoming a conservative rallying cry because they don’t challenge the righteousness and integrity (or lack of same) of your average pew filling Christian. But better to believe in folk devils and moral panics... They are less of an inconvenience to one’s own life and self-interest, though it is unfortunate that once our Bible believing friends are happy to disproportionately condemn others – Scripture tells us they will be likewise judged and called to account: logs and specks, tax collector and Pharisee... whatever, there is much a little nearer home should be scrutinised in the same way...
Hence, it's a pity our conservative friends have nothing better to think about. Remember the majority of states in the US that have allowed gay marriage are the ones with the lowest divorce rates - and lowest rates of teen pregnancy, single parent families, violent crime etc. There is a similar pattern in North European democracies. As far as governing a society, allowing gay marriage seems the very thing that makes for a more wholesome society... Now there’s irony...
Anonymous - Thank you for your personal opinion on this issue. Sin is Sin and no matter how you try to sugar-coat it each one of us will be judged by God in the end. Blessing too you my friend.
God created Man, male and female in his own image. It has always been Satan's plan to distort the image of God. If someone wants to promote that, I do not see why anyone is to hesitate calling him a false teacher. However, it is always wise not to focus on the person and become judgemental over it and fall in another sin. We should learn from others' mistakes in order to advance the Kingdom of God in a more efficient and correct way.
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