tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post468194669735537233..comments2023-10-02T06:23:55.831-07:00Comments on Solid Rock or Sinking Sand: Can a Christian lose their Salvation?Solid Rock or Sinking Sandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04815501572621378327noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-28801322889967544262011-08-14T06:47:57.632-07:002011-08-14T06:47:57.632-07:00Patrick,
In Matthew chapters 5, 6 and 7, where we ...Patrick,<br />In Matthew chapters 5, 6 and 7, where we call the Sermon on the Mount, the Lord Jesus was addressing a mainly Jewish audience who believed that they could "cast out demons". But the brunt of the passage in Matthew 7:21ff was that the reason he dismissed them from his presence was because they trusted in their own works, including exorcism. <br />They cried out in protest:<br />Lord, Lord, have WE not prophesied in your name? And in your name have WE not cast out devils? And in your name have WE not done many wonderful works?Frank Blasihttp://sauna-nut.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-90696469126878032932011-08-14T00:51:58.317-07:002011-08-14T00:51:58.317-07:00Good article. Doesn't the scripture in Matthew...Good article. Doesn't the scripture in Matthew refer to those who are believers? It seems to me in my studies that no one could ever cast out demons if they never had the Holy Spirit inside of them. They would hold no power against demons. So it seems that Jesus is indeed referring to those who DO know him and believe. And why would the verse in Revelations ever be said by him if there was no cause or purpose for a name to be blotted out from the Book. Only those "Born again" are to be recorded, correct?Patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-38584968134385573472011-05-16T10:15:12.318-07:002011-05-16T10:15:12.318-07:00Frank - Thank you for the visit and comments. I e...Frank - Thank you for the visit and comments. I enjoyed your blog and agree that the "mystic vision of the Virgin Mary" is quite occultic. God bless, LloydSolid Rock or Sinking Sandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04815501572621378327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-34835367017588332892011-05-14T12:48:37.354-07:002011-05-14T12:48:37.354-07:00A very encouraging article. This debate about eter...A very encouraging article. This debate about eternal security of the believer has been going on for some 400 years. But how did it originate?<br />I have read on the life of James Arminius, the author of "On the Reconciliation of Free Will and of the Sovereignity and Providence of God." - from the internet, and have written a simplified version on one of my blogs:<br />Once Saved Always Saved, Part 1 - The Origins - and the idea that a Christian can lose his salvation actually has its beginnings from a "mystic vision of the Virgin Mary" which to me seems certainly occultic.<br />My blog page is "Frank's Thoughts."Frank E. Blasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12218732913319387677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-25797075098244541482010-12-21T13:58:59.466-08:002010-12-21T13:58:59.466-08:00By the way, I just wanted to let you know for futu...By the way, I just wanted to let you know for future reference that my husband jokes allot and he doesn't ever mean anything in a bad way.<br /><br />We added you to our blogroll. You share good, important stuff!<br /><br />God bless!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-81809102391453394702010-12-14T23:14:00.041-08:002010-12-14T23:14:00.041-08:00Mrs. A is typing. My husband wants to know if your...Mrs. A is typing. My husband wants to know if your a Christian blogger po po?...lol!<br /><br />We read your blog together tonight. You made my husband's head get big because he already new the answer.<br /><br />This is what he said: I agree with Lloyd's words. I remember when I was growing up my mom would make me go to church. It seemed that the pastor would always ask in the sermon, "If God were to come right now would you go to heaven? And if your answer is yes, why?<br /><br />I never understood why the pastor would ask that question so often. It always made me feel like I could never get to heaven. This was one of the biggest reasons why I left the church. How could you ever feel saved if your pastor always made you doubt? At that point I felt it was just a waist of time to even go to church.<br /><br />It took many years for me to learn, realize, and accept my FREE gift of salvation. I enjoyed your blog. I hope allot of young people read this one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-6078553078645763452010-12-11T19:43:13.364-08:002010-12-11T19:43:13.364-08:00Anonymous - I will keep you and your husband in my...Anonymous - I will keep you and your husband in my prayers. There are so many things in life that can cause us to worry and burden us down. God did not intend to have His free gift of salvation to be a burden to anyone, who by faith accepts His Son. The RCC indoctrinates their converts with such unbiblical doctrines that in reality they (RCC) becomes a stumbling block for those who seek God's truth. <br /><br />Belonging to the RCC and adding works (baptism) in order to be "Saved" is absolutely not necessary to receive the freedom in Christ Jesus that our Holy and Almighty God wants us all to have. I look forward to you and your husband's visits and comments. May God continue to bless both of you. LloydSolid Rock or Sinking Sandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04815501572621378327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-14686711603072367032010-12-11T17:36:50.583-08:002010-12-11T17:36:50.583-08:00I just want to say, brother Lloyd, thank you for a...I just want to say, brother Lloyd, thank you for all your prayers. The good news is, by the grace of God, my husband helped rip me from his (Catholic guy) clutches. I no longer want to be a blogger until he's long gone. Hopefully my husband and I can still read your blog together sometimes.<br /><br />God bless youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-34471152972652914872010-10-09T11:00:30.546-07:002010-10-09T11:00:30.546-07:00Hi Lloyd,
I agree that the Lord never forsakes us...Hi Lloyd,<br /><br />I agree that the Lord never forsakes us or leaves us. But what about those to forsake and leave the Lord?<br /><br />I once had a very dear friend, who loved the Lord (she actually had more influence on me accepting Jesus Christ as my personal saviour and being born again than anyone else I've ever known), served in her church, and was what I considered a little bit of a "Jesus freak" prior to my own salvation. - Now, I'm the Jesus freak.<br /><br />Several years after my own conversion her family went through some long and serious trails. In the midst of these trials she came to me and told me, "I give up. I can not fight the good fight anymore. I am too tired. I ask, expect, and thank the Lord in advance for rest and resolution however, our trials continue to worsen. I seriously think the way of the world would be easier." Please note: her family trails were incredibly serious.<br /><br />I, of course, prayed with her, for her and her family and tried to encourage and counsel her. I made my self avaialable to her and whatever needs she may have had. I felt the Holy Spirit impress upon me that she was in the Spiritual fight of her life - It was very clear her family's trials were literally beating the life out of her. Heartbreakingly, <br />within a few short months of her confession and plea for help, she left her husband and children. By the end of that year she met and began living with a Wiccan High Priest. Today, she is divorced from her husband, has no contact with her children AND, most heartbreaking of all, has denounced Christ and the Holy Spirit and fully embraced the pagean religion of Wicca. <br /><br />Did God forsake her or leave her? Absolutely not! SHE has forsaken and left God. She has fully embraced a false pagean religion that God will NOT honor.<br /><br />Based on what I've personally witnessed through this situation and read in the Bible, I fully believe that if she passes unrepentant, she will perrish in the lake of fire for all eternity.<br /><br />We are free agents. Just because we accept the gift of salvation doen't mean there won't be those who later in life reject it and literally throw it away.<br /><br />So, am I to judge from our post that you are saying that if one is "truely" saved they will never turn away and fully reject God and those who do fully reject God, were never "truely" saved to begin with?<br /><br />Mrs.BMrs. B, a very peculiar personhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03579160731517930694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-14170252515513344072010-10-02T07:15:54.694-07:002010-10-02T07:15:54.694-07:00Ian - Thank you so much my brother for sharing the...Ian - Thank you so much my brother for sharing these scriptures with me. It is amazing how much comfort and peace comes from meditating on God's Word. <br /><br />I want to thank you and your wife so very much for the prayers that you have made in behalf of my dear cousin Bonnie and her family. As much as I will miss Bonnie, it is very comforting to know that she has no more pain and suffering. God's blessings too you and your wife.Solid Rock or Sinking Sandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04815501572621378327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-54067613719938247132010-09-29T12:25:43.258-07:002010-09-29T12:25:43.258-07:00Hello Lloyd,
I just wanted to share with you a cou...Hello Lloyd,<br />I just wanted to share with you a couple passages of scripture that I have found comforting and edifying regarding the remarkable position we have in Christ; I hope you enjoy them as well. The first is Psalm 121, and the second is Jeremiah 50:20; both of which I have greatly enjoyed gleaning from lately. Just wanted to share.<br />Thank you for sharing Bonnie's story as well. My wife and I have been praying for her, and your family. We might rejoice that she is going home to glory, though we mourn with those she leaves behind. Our love and prayers go out to all of you. Ian.Ian Curtishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027275808408069964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-90113266934834537852010-09-21T11:58:14.011-07:002010-09-21T11:58:14.011-07:00I think that depends on the question, what we unde...I think that depends on the question, what we understand the Salvation. Because something very different is situation, when one Christian who lose in some circumstances his way, who can't have happiness because of Salvation - the best example could be Peter, who denied Jesus. After this accident Jesus said to Peter: Feed my sheeps (I don't know, if I well translated these words from Polish). <br />Another question is in the case of person, who in reality didn't know Jesus.Nadwrażliwiec https://www.blogger.com/profile/00793189053691447662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-36054415158767998032010-09-20T16:04:36.976-07:002010-09-20T16:04:36.976-07:00You put such thought and care into your posts. Th...You put such thought and care into your posts. Thank you for that.Debbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17480046958714954128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-18172470627222896682010-09-20T12:01:12.694-07:002010-09-20T12:01:12.694-07:00Great post. I'm sure grateful that God saved ...Great post. I'm sure grateful that God saved me by His great mercy and grace, that He even gave me the faith to be able to believe in Him. I'm grateful that He keeps me.Tracyhttp://abundantliving-tracy.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-81037225806619456002010-09-20T10:02:34.662-07:002010-09-20T10:02:34.662-07:00Amen! Loved the post - love to see the gospel exp...Amen! Loved the post - love to see the gospel explained CLEARLY and not out of context. Thanks for stopping by my blog. Look forward to reading many more great posts. <br /><br />diane from survivordiane.blogspot.comSurvivorDianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09242309417669890800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-64808025288232637672010-09-20T08:44:29.659-07:002010-09-20T08:44:29.659-07:00Great post brother! And the comments are great as...Great post brother! And the comments are great as well!!<br /><br />Also, I haven't been here for a looong time and was blessed to read some of your older posts!! And YES, I think Glen Beck is being used by God in this season!!<br /><br />Keep up the good work here!!<br /><br />HE IS FAITHFUL!!!<br /><br />Blessings!<br />JackieJackiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08471225291665810800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-66550384098854827192010-09-20T06:20:48.999-07:002010-09-20T06:20:48.999-07:00Protoprotestant - I want to thank you for your vis...Protoprotestant - I want to thank you for your visit and comments. It is true that some scripture indicates that a believer could lose their salvation in certain circumstances, however, taken in context with the whole Bible and the love that God has for His greatest creation, mankind, God will never leave nor forsake His children if they come too Him through His Son.<br /><br /><br />I find it interesting that over the centuries Christians have always debated and argued on whether they CAN LOSE or CAN NOT LOSE their salvation. Some of the most brilliant minds in the Christian community have researched scripture but still there is this division among us. My conclusion is this... I do not believe that our Holy God would ever leave us nor forsake us after we have opened up our hearts and souls too Him and accepted His Son as our Lord and Savior. Now this is just my own personal opinion. I can honestly say that I have all the peace and joy in the Lord knowing that when I die, there WILL be a place in Heaven for me. The question I have to ask folks that do not believe in "Eternal Security" is this: Do you have the peace and joy knowing where you will be after you die? Or, are you still uncertain because you feel that God may not think you are worthy enough to enter His Kingdom. Blessings my friend in Christ.<br /><br /><br />RCUBE's, Coreen, Angie, and Denise - I want to personally thank each of you for your visits and comments. I think RCUBEs, that we all are programmed with "worldly ways" but when our "worldly ways" begin to interfere with our relationship with our Lord and Savior, that is when the Holy Spirit begins to convict us to change our ways. What an Awesome God we have that even though we sometimes drift off course, He will ALWAYS be there to take us back.<br /><br />I want to thank you Denise for such a wonderful testimony for the Lord. God will never leave us or forsake us. His love for us is unconditional and eternal. Blessings to each of you.<br /><br /><br />Ian - I want to thank you for your visit and I always enjoy reading your comments. It grieves me too that so many Christians are taught that they can lose their salvation. There are several "Hard Line" Christians out there that use "fear" to motivate their congregations to be faithful instead of using the love, grace, and mercy that only comes in an intimate relationship with our Savior and Lord Jesus. When folks are motivated by "fear" that undermines the "Love" of Christ. I agree with you, "If Christians can agree that salvation is God's free gift, then it is irrevocable." Blessing to you my friend in Christ.Solid Rock or Sinking Sandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04815501572621378327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-2894324729828678102010-09-20T06:16:21.855-07:002010-09-20T06:16:21.855-07:00Miawa - Thank you for the visit and encouraging wo...Miawa - Thank you for the visit and encouraging words. I just love Romans 8:38-39. God's blessings too you.<br /><br /><br />Jennifer - Thank you for your visit. Only God knows the heart and soul of a person. I think it is true of any church that there are always going to be those who know about Jesus and who He is but do not have a personal relationship with Him. Remember... even the devil knew who Jesus was. It is my prayer that all will come to Jesus and turn their life's over to Him. God bless.<br /><br /><br />MTJ - Thank you for your words of wisdom and visit. I pray along with you that the "lost" will be "found". The devil is the father of all "lies" and rejoices every time a person is deceived into thinking that there is no hope in our Lord. The angels rejoice when a lost soul finally submits their life to the Lord. Blessings my friend.<br /><br /><br />One Heart - Thank you my friend for your visit and words of encouragement. I have always been a defender of the truth and firmly believe that our Almighty God will give me the courage and wisdom to do His will. Having said this... I realize that this is a very hot issue among the Christian community and that there are scriptures that, if taken out of context, would make a person think that God would turn His back on them.<br /><br /><br />Thanks again for your support and if you get a chance, please email me the links that you have that deal with salvation. I have several myself, but am always open to study any others that are biblical based. God bless you my friend in Christ. <br /><br /><br />Bren, Debbie, Denise and Jane- I want to personally thank each of you for your visit and kind comments. I agree with you Bren, that it is sad that there are so many folks out there that will hear the words, "I never knew you.", when the Day of Judgment comes. So many people out there believe the false teachings and doctrines relating to God's free gift of Salvation. Blessings to all of you.<br /><br /><br />Gorges - Thank you for your visit and comments. I agree with you that there is "NO PEACE" that passes understanding without that "BLESSED ASSURANCE". Otherwise...There would be no HOPE if I felt that God would leave me every time I made a mistake (sinned). Blessings my friend.<br /><br /><br />Arts&amp - Thank you so much for your visit and wonderful testimony for our Lord and Savior. Blessings.Solid Rock or Sinking Sandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04815501572621378327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-51784907451861705912010-09-19T21:50:22.087-07:002010-09-19T21:50:22.087-07:00As someone who was out of God's will for a per...As someone who was out of God's will for a period of time, I can speak from experience. Not only am I still saved but He NEVER gave up until he found a way to woo me back to Himself! Even when we are unfaithful to him, He is Faithful to us.Denisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18001350134130555611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-17718105005602067472010-09-19T19:07:57.111-07:002010-09-19T19:07:57.111-07:00Hi lloyd! Thanks for stopping by my blog. So gla...Hi lloyd! Thanks for stopping by my blog. So glad you did and I was able to find yours. I have really enjoyed reading your posts, and believe I can learn much from you. Have a blessed day. AngieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-57715245891293130052010-09-19T16:58:49.150-07:002010-09-19T16:58:49.150-07:00Hello, Lloyd,
I must say this is a sensitive spot;...Hello, Lloyd,<br />I must say this is a sensitive spot; there is no other doctrine taught by Christians that grieves me more than "falling away."<br />I understand that proponents of this doctrine use it as a vehicle to promote godly living; but fear is a poor motivator when compared to love for the security God has willingly given us in Christ.<br />The passages in Revelation about the "overcomer" are some of the verses in the arsenal used by teachers of "falling away," yet John wrote, "Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?" 1st John 5:5.<br />If we received salvation when we were unworthy of earning it, it is strange logic to think that since now we have been given this gift of infinite value we must work to retain it. <br />As it is with salvation's reception, so it is with it's retention: "And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace," Romans 11:6. "For the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable," Romans 11:29.<br />If Christians can agree that salvation is God's free gift, then it is irrevocable.<br />Thanks for letting me rant. Love to see you defending His truth, Ian.Ian Curtishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027275808408069964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-40798094559928899882010-09-18T19:13:52.715-07:002010-09-18T19:13:52.715-07:00Great post & thank you for the passage links. ...Great post & thank you for the passage links. I like having the references a 'click' away.<br /><br />Thank you for the invite. Following and Off to read more now.<br /><br />HUGS,<br />CoreenVelvet Over Steelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08625445902301159594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-55472632579264102602010-09-18T18:11:44.282-07:002010-09-18T18:11:44.282-07:00With me being programmed with worldly ways, this i...With me being programmed with worldly ways, this is very comforting brother Lloyd! When the enemy throws lies at me that I am not His anymore, that's when a soft whisper reminds me that my sins: past, present and future were all erased! Glory be to God! Thanks be to Jesus!RCUBEshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03726426726039665564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-721373471921118022010-09-18T16:49:23.880-07:002010-09-18T16:49:23.880-07:00I think we know who the real believers are by thei...I think we know who the real believers are by their fruit, by the perseverance.<br /><br />The warnings and conditional exhortations of Scripture are real.<br /><br />Obviously those who are elect, saved by Divine Grace are truly saved and the plan of God cannot be thwarted.<br /><br />But here in the temporal realm, in the Not yet as the Scriptures say, we don't have the eternal perspective of God's throne. We don't know who is elect and who isn't. So we need to preach the gospel to ourselves every day, continuing in the faith grounded and settled and not being moved away....<br /><br />Making our calling and election sure, working out our salvation with fear and trembling...because we can deceive ourselves.<br /><br />In a convenantal sense, one can be a Christian and then fall away...and no longer be reckoned among the people of God.<br /><br />Does that mean they were unregenerate or non-elect? We don't know. Maybe they'll come back? We can't pry into their hearts and see if the Holy Spirit has changed it, so working through the means God has given us we simply say....they've fallen from grace.<br /><br />So on the one hand, in no way can you lose your salvation. In another sense, speaking in terms of visible covenant...yes you can.Protoprotestanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217567607160768261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-601271736781558965.post-36443243759150280522010-09-18T16:47:37.795-07:002010-09-18T16:47:37.795-07:00Thank you for this witness, Lloyd.....!
When I me...Thank you for this witness, Lloyd.....!<br /><br />When I met our Lord through revelation 41 years ago.... Jesus placed this in my heart as secure as He is, & in total vision of how it is in Him in Heaven.... may our earth also reflect the perfection of our Father in Heaven!<br /><br />I then started reading the Bible... with a thirst of knowing all I could from the grace Jesus saved me in. The Bible fully backed up everything Jesus imparted to me in an instant at the moment of salvation grace in Him.<br /><br />41 years later.... it is & always has been the same! Our Lord NEVER leaves us! What incredible love! Thank you, Jesus!<br /><br />Love in our Lord Jesus Christ,<br />His SonshineArts&Disabilityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16307699444113711459noreply@blogger.com